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Boulder County: Post-Election Thoughts n' Comments
Sunday, 7 November 2004
CANADA REPORTS HUGE JUMP IN IMMIGRATION
Mood:  silly
(humor)
CANADA REPORTS HUGE JUMP IN IMMIGRATION
Over 55,000,000 Requests for Citizenship Since
Tuesday Night Canadian immigration officials have reported a huge increase in the number of requests for Canadian citizenship in the past 48 hours, with over 55 million such inquiries pouring in since late Tuesday night. Of those 55 million requests, well over 99.99% of them came from US citizens, the lion's share residing in such states as New York, California, Massachusetts, Oregon, Washington,
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Vermont, Maine, Rhode
Island, Connecticut, Delaware,
Maryland, & the District of Columbia.

Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Pierre Pettigrew
said that he was "flabbergasted" by the 55-million-plus requests for Canadian citizenship, adding that
it was difficult to pinpoint the precise reasons
for the staggering increase.

"My only theory is that after many years of
exposure in the US, hockey is
finally starting to catch on," Pettigrew said. He
cautioned, however, that it is impossible to know exactly what is sparking the sudden interest in America's neighbor to the north: "People answering our immigration hotline say that it
is hard to understand many of the American callers
because they are sobbing uncontrollably."

In other news, President George W Bush used his
acceptance speech Wednesday to reach out to supporters of Senator John Kerry, telling them, "You can run, but you can't hide."

Elsewhere, experts said that exit polls may have
falsely predicted a Kerry victory because Kerry voters exited while Bush voters stayed behind & voted again.

www.Borowitzreport.com

Posted by boulderforum at 10:06 AM MST
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Saturday, 6 November 2004
Companies win, Environment Loses, Religious Rights Have Their Day
Mood:  d'oh
From my Father:

Sorry to hear that the election has left you somewhat depressed. Half the country is in the same
blue funk. Just thinking that we have to put up with an idiot for the next 4 years to run this country is dismaying. However, lets try to look for a silver lining among the gray clouds.

Arrogantly, Bush has said that the fact that he won 51% of the vote that he now has a mandate to put through all his proposals and ideas. The Republicans in congress are now gearing up to push these policies through. Bush and the republicans are very business/industry friendly. Businesses will be getting tremendous tax breaks, many environmental and safety regulations will be eliminated or eased up
substantially. This will improve profits and CEO compensation at the expense of the environment
and the low and middle class wage earner. The establishment of individual savings accounts within
social security will benefit banks, brokerages, mutual funds, etc.

Changes in medicare will aid the pharmaceutical companies, and medical industry. They'll be drilling for oil in Alaska soon which will
help the oil industry. All of this could mean the beginning of another big bull market if the country doesn't go into complete bankrupcy
because of the incredibly high debt...which is being financed at this time by foreigners. If foreign
countries decide to stop buying US Treasury notes and bonds the US government could collapse. The
dollar is loosing ground to the euro meaning that imports will cost less...which means that Walmart
will be practically giving the stuff away.

Unfortunately half the country is more concerned about gay marrige, abortion, and religion than the
real important issues facing this country. So while the religious right feels secure Bush will be making
substantial changes in their lives that will make their financial lives less secure.


Posted by boulderforum at 3:41 PM MST
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Friday, 5 November 2004
Wallow In Chaos, And Laugh
Mood:  chillin'
Now Playing: San Francisco Chronical Article
Truly a sad day for our country. Here's a letter which is good. Suzanne

On a happier note, we had a clean sweep for the democrats in Jones County. The two supervisors kept their seats and the Republican senator and representative were unseated!! Gary is very happy.

DV

Wallow In Chaos, And Laugh
A pro-Bush outcome and one enormous bitter pill and you without your vodka
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Wednesday, November 3, 2004

Oh dear God please not again.
Oh dear God please don't let it be all convoluted and depressing and messy and stupid and please don't let it all embarrass us on an international level all over again even more than it already has and even more than it already is and even more than we've endured lo these past four debilitating and soul-crushing years. Hello? Please? Is it already too late?

Why yes, yes it is.
And lo and behold, it was apparently another completely tortuous and entirely knotted presidential election, unfinished until the wee hours and reeking of E-voting suspicion and exit-poll miscalculation and it all came down to, what? Ohio? Are you serious? What a thing.

And now Kerry's conceded and the white flag has been raised and we are headed toward the utterly appalling notion of another four years of Bush and another Republican stranglehold of Congress and repeated GOP chants of "More War in '04!"

Which is, well, simply staggering. Mind blowing. Odd. Gut wrenching. Colon knotting. Eyeball gouging. And so on.
You want to block it out. You want to rend your flesh and yank your hair and say no way in hell and lean out your window and scream into the Void and pray it will all be over soon, even though you know you're an atheist Buddhist Taoist Rosicrucian Zen Orgasmican and you don't normally pray to anything except maybe the gods of really exceptional sake and skin-tingling sex and maybe a few luminous transcendental deities that look remarkably like Jenna Jameson.......

[The complete article is at the San Francisco Chronical website:]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2004/11/03/notes110304.DTL

Posted by boulderforum at 9:21 AM MST
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Kerry avoids Bushes Leftover Crap

What do you do when the evil party has figured out how to appeal to the ignorant masses????

My only consolation is that I think that Kerry is too
good of a man to be stuck with all of Bush's leftover
crap... the war, the deficit, etc. It's going to be
painful. We may not survive it. But in 4 more years, the country will know what a mistake they've made.

That's all I've got. If you decide to start a support
group, count me in.

Posted by boulderforum at 9:03 AM MST
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Thursday, 4 November 2004
Election Recovery List
Mood:  quizzical
Let's see...recovering from the election. This is going to be tough at first, but maybe these ideas will help...

- figure out how the GOP got the vote out
- continue to work to bring to the surface the official and exact core
beliefs of the GOP, which are really radical and bass-ackwards, in
every
sense
- keep informed on the war body count, and talk about it all the time
- personally be the peace that we wish for, why not
- work for peace here and abroad
- watch with joy as the dems in congress filabuster the hearings on W's
supreme court appointees
- write letters to the big papers every week
- start a website on how W sucks
- start a website on how great Obama is, or how great Joe Biden is, and
others...oh yeah, don't forget our guy Ken Salazar!
- go about our lives with the same certainty that we had before, when
we
knew we were right (or at least onto something)
- Slavery took a while to eradicate (at least by law), and so it will
take a
long time to stop the "dark side" from spreading fear in the name of
righteousness
- create art that parodies the administration viciously --I saw Laurie
Anderson perform last night, and I was really inspired
- publicize everything that Tom Delay says, since most of it is
ridiculous
- if we are so compelled, talk about what WE think God wants (invadiing
other countries? I doubt it.)
- support public radio and TV
- support environmental groups with lots of money and time and
letterwriting

Dan

Posted by boulderforum at 2:08 PM MST
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Alternative Candidate?
Mood:  silly
My only thought is that the Democrats had the perfect candidate to win this
election: Zell Miller.

mb

Posted by boulderforum at 11:16 AM MST
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Bummed in Oxford England
Now Playing: Oxford, England

From a Boulderite living in Oxford, England:

Hey Peter!!

I am so bummed out here in Oxford after staying up most of Tuesday night watching the election returns. Unfortunately, I watched political pundits here in England who interviewed U.S. pollsters. TThe pollsters sais that Kerry had it in the bag based on exit poles. I will never listen to exit poles again!!!

People here in Oxford are also very disappointed in the results. Just think on the bright side..in four more years, Bush will disappear off the landscape!! Move to England and join the Liberal Democrat party...they despise Bush and Blair.


Posted by boulderforum at 9:25 AM MST
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Despondent in Austria
Mood:  sad
From a Boulderite who is living in Austria:

Hi Peter,

I also am rather despondent about things. Perhaps being out of the country somewhat lessens the blow, but I can assure you that we are feeling pretty
down here too!

I take heart that although Bush did win the popular vote in Colorado, the Salazars did Colorado proud and Democrats in Colorado are much better
represented in the state congressional delegation. I'm also holding out hope that the outrage we feel today will translate in to strong results for the
Democrats in the mid-term election in two years.

I've attached an email from the daughter of Teri's best friend. While she is American by virtue of being born in LA, both her parents are Sri Lankan
and she has grown up in Vienna. She is now a freshman at Wellesley.

I highly doubt it is helpful, but I think it is worth reading.

Regards, David.

Posted by boulderforum at 9:23 AM MST
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Wednesday, 3 November 2004
Living Poor, Voting Rich (NY Times Article)
Living Poor, Voting Rich

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

Published: November 3, 2004
E-mail: nicholas@nytimes.com

In the aftermath of this civil war that our nation has just fought, one result is clear: the Democratic Party's first priority should be to reconnect with the American heartland.

I'm writing this on tenterhooks on Tuesday, without knowing the election results. But whether John Kerry's supporters are now celebrating or seeking asylum abroad, they should be feeling wretched
about the millions of farmers, factory workers and waitresses who ended up voting - utterly against their own interests - for Republican
candidates.

One of the Republican Party's major successes over the last few decades has been to persuade many of the working poor to vote for tax breaks for billionaires. Democrats are still effective on
bread-and-butter issues like health care, but they come across in much of America as arrogant and out of touch the moment the discussion
shifts to values.

"On values, they are really noncompetitive in the heartland," noted Mike Johanns, a Republican who is governor of Nebraska. "This kind of elitist, Eastern approach to the party is just devastating in the
Midwest and Western states. It's very difficult for senatorial, Congressional and even local candidates to survive."

In the summer, I was home - too briefly - in Yamhill, Ore., a rural,working-class area where most people would benefit from Democratic policies on taxes and health care. But many of those people disdain Democrats as elitists who empathize with spotted owls rather than loggers.

One problem is the yuppification of the Democratic Party. Thomas Frank, author of the best political book of the year, "What's the Matter With Kansas: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America," says
that Democratic leaders have been so eager to win over suburban professionals that they have lost touch with blue-collar America.

"There is a very upper-middle-class flavor to liberalism, and that's just bound to rub average people the wrong way," Mr. Frank said. He
notes that Republicans have used "culturally powerful but content-free issues" to connect to ordinary voters.

To put it another way, Democrats peddle issues, and Republicans sell values. Consider the four G's: God, guns, gays and grizzlies.

One-third of Americans are evangelical Christians, and many of them perceive Democrats as often contemptuous of their faith. And, frankly,
they're often right. Some evangelicals take revenge by smiting Democratic candidates.

Then we have guns, which are such an emotive issue that Idaho's Democratic candidate for the Senate two years ago, Alan Blinken, felt obliged to declare that he owned 24 guns "and I use them all." He
still lost.

As for gays, that's a rare wedge issue that Democrats have managed to neutralize in part, along with abortion. Most Americans disapprove of gay marriage but do support some kind of civil unions (just as they oppose "partial birth" abortions but don't want teenage girls to die
from coat-hanger abortions).

Finally, grizzlies - a metaphor for the way environmentalism is often perceived in the West as high-handed. When I visited Idaho, people
were still enraged over a Clinton proposal to introduce 25 grizzly bears into the wild. It wasn't worth antagonizing most of Idaho over 25 bears.

"The Republicans are smarter," mused Oregon's governor, Ted Kulongoski, a Democrat. "They've created ... these social issues to get the public to stop looking at what's happening to them
economically."

"What we once thought - that people would vote in their economic self-interest - is not true, and we Democrats haven't figured out how to deal with that."

Bill Clinton intuitively understood the challenge, and John Edwards seems to as well, perhaps because of their own working-class origins. But the party as a whole is mostly in denial.

To appeal to middle America, Democratic leaders don't need to carry guns to church services and shoot grizzlies on the way. But a starting
point would be to shed their inhibitions about talking about faith,and to work more with religious groups.

Otherwise, the Democratic Party's efforts to improve the lives of working-class Americans in the long run will be blocked by the very people the Democrats aim to help.


Posted by boulderforum at 10:33 PM MST
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Getting the Right Candidate

hello

It's really clear to me that the Democratic party just didn't put a
great
canidate. There's a prediental candiate factory that basicaly says you
need to be a govenor or senitor before you can be president. There's
probably good reasons for this, though at the same time it's inhibiting
for the younger generation to produce a viable canidate.

We need a new type of person running for office :-)

It's a matter of presenting a suitable candiate we can get warm fuzzy
feelings about, that apeals to both parties, and has their heart in the
right place. It's about getting the right person in rather than the
right
party. Do this for each congressional seat, or maybe we'll start with
10%
of them, and you'll change the nation.

Dream Big

SKy

Posted by boulderforum at 10:09 PM MST
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